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Vlad Tverdohleb's avatar

The distinction between relaxing the nervous system and actually regulating it is the whole thing. Relaxing is a break. Regulation is a structural change. Most people chase the first and wonder why they snap back to baseline the moment stress returns.

The line about labeling a negative emotion lowering its intensity. That works because naming pulls you out of fusion with the feeling. You stop being the anger and start being the one who notices anger. That tiny gap is where choice lives.

Nothing works all at once. That is the hardest part to accept when you are in the middle of it. You want the upgrade to be a single event. But it is usually a thousand small repatternings that look like nothing from the outside until one day they add up to everything.

Thank you for this.

Sarah Erwin's avatar

That was largely my experience as well.

EMDR was not magic. It was also not easy. Some sessions left me exhausted. Some left me surprised by what surfaced. I would go out of town with a friend and we would wind up taking naps in a hotel nearby before we went home.

But it helped enormously.

I do think openness matters. Not blind belief, but a willingness to follow the process where it leads rather than trying to control it from the outside.

The therapy cannot digest what we refuse to look at.

For me, the breakthrough wasn’t reliving the memory. It was discovering that my body had been carrying pieces of it long after my mind thought the story was over.

EMDR helped create “movement” where everything had become stuck.

It wasn’t the whole journey, but it was a meaningful part of it, and one that I still lean into several times a year.

A.MarissaSira's avatar

This is one of the clearest maps I've seen of why relief and transformation are not the same thing, and why so many people do years of good work and still find themselves living the same story.

What you're calling integration, the wound becoming identity, becoming the person the crocodile could not have predicted, is what the initiatory traditions understood as the whole point of descent. The underworld passage was never meant to return you to who you were. It was designed to strip you to what was essential and let something truer emerge. Your four depths are, in a different language, the architecture those traditions built entire cosmologies around.

From twenty-six years of Chinese medicine I'd add this: the body doesn't just hold the trauma. In the classical understanding, it holds the soul decision. What you're calling MUD is what the system reads as the place where shen, the spirit housed in the heart, went underground and stopped moving. The presenting complaint is rarely the wound itself. It's the life that organized itself around never going near the water again.

And on the reconsolidation window, the prediction error, what actually creates the conditions for the body to revise what it decided under terror: in my experience it isn't primarily cognitive. It's relational and somatic. The body has to feel, in the room, with another person, that it is safe enough to be surprised. That safety isn't the absence of activation. It's a quality of presence that the nervous system reads before the mind has any say. Which is, of course, the very faculty you'd need to have cultivated in yourself to offer it to someone else.

The voice that speaks first goes both ways in the room.

EM Meyer's avatar

Thank you. I'm sorry I am unable to read every detail of your article at this time; I'd like to comment on some of what I absorbed, if I may. Years ago, when my body spoke and said, "This far and no farther," I had to get help with the suppressed trauma that I'd already had years of therapy around. A new therapist first tried EMDR. Nothing. Brainspotting, however, did work. By "work," I mean, I felt the somatic release. I continued to stay engaged with my own emotional awareness tools, and I've had no triggering setbacks since. What I mean by that is, I'm aware when I enter the territory of, "Oh, I recognize this. It used to be the place where I would become reactionary." Aware, but not under the unconscious spell anymore. Not saying it's for everyone. Just thought I'd share.

Dr. Jade Teta's avatar

Love that. Thank you for sharing. There is no doubt these tools and others can create true reconsolidation. The issue is they don't always. In fact, they rarely do if the practitioner is not aware of the mechanism that's required. It seems a "prediction error" must occur... meaning the old emotional material must be activated and another emotionally true counterintuitive example introduced in that window is required. And that is not always easy to produce or even easy to spot when it occurs. Curious if you have a recollection of that occuring?

EM Meyer's avatar

Yes... re: "another emotionally true counterintuitive example introduced in that window is required." Honestly, I have never broken it down into these terms before, but I see its value. For me, in that moment, and many other moments since, it is the somatic signal in the body that permeates and announces, in essence, THIS is who you are, and it becomes a new marker in the body. So when we become conscious that we have slipped or are out of balance, we ask to feel the new marker again. That signal speaks volumes directly to the body instrument, and sadly, I have few definitions, labels, and words because I didn't learn this externally. As for the practitioner? He was shocked but shared later with me what he experienced - also something he found difficult to place into words, but felt. I was grateful that he was willing to step outside his standard "professional mode" and reflect with me.

Elizabeth Wysen's avatar

This is so important! I will be sharing with my community. Thank you so much for your wisdom. I always wondered why EMDR did not work for me.

Dr. Jade Teta's avatar

Glad this was helpful Elizabeth. ;-)